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We will counsel you on your secret issues.
This is Hello, the National Competition on Issues.
Let's meet our guests today.
Let's welcome An Sun-young, who's busy raising her child these days.
Hello.
Next, we have two handsome male guests.
The original intelligent and sexy guy, Kim Jeong-hoon.
The man that China is in love with, Hwang Chi-yeul.
- He is the man that China is in love with.
I heard that you are in love with your baby these days.
- Yes, I haven't loved a boy this much in my life. - Your son?
- His Korean name is "Baro." - Did you just have him?
(A middle-aged joke)
I had him when I was traveling in Barcelona.
For fun, we talked about naming the child "Baro" if it was a son,
and "Rona" if it was a daughter.
In English,
the name means "stand up straight."
- It's kind of... - Stand up straight?
- It means to stand up straight. - Dong-yeob, why are you flinching?
I'm busy raising him these days.
- That's a nice name - Yes.
(We hope you become a handsome man!)
Hwang Chi-yeul, China is in love with you so much these days.
- 2016 must have been a special year. - It feels like 5 years have passed.
- By feeling? - Yes.
- I experienced so much. - I see.
Did you earn five years worth of money?
Why do you think of it that way?
Since you're such a big star in China, did you give your parents money gifts?
- How much did you give them? - I gave them a thick envelope.
- It was pretty thick. - I see.
My mother said, "I don't need this at all."
- "I'm more worried about your health." - That's right.
She said that and put the envelope in her pocket.
- We understand. - I envy her.
- How long has it been since your debut? 15 or 16 years? - 16 years.
- Wow. - It's been a long time.
He looks so young.
His skin and face hasn't changed much since then.
- He looks the same. - He looks young.
- SECHSKIES and S.E.S have reunited. - Right.
They have returned recently as a group.
Will UN reunite next year?
He's busy shooting a drama right now...
and I also want to gain more experience as an actor.
I don't think we'll return as UN.
But I think it will be great if we meet on stage one day.
- Chi-yeul, you sang often on TV. Do you know UN's song? - Yes.
- Of course I know. Can you clap for me? - Clap, clap.
- A breathtaking - A breathtaking
- And beautiful sea - And beautiful sea
I love this song.
- In my eyes - In my eyes
- It looked more beautiful - It looked more beautiful
This song is still popular these days.
- In pubs where they turn on old music, - Pubs?
- people go crazy when they hear this song. - Yes.
- I heard it on a home shopping show. - Yes.
- That's right. - They turn it on in the summer.
We have prepared three issues today.
Let's see what they are.
(The keywords are revealed.)
- That looks nice. - "The Devil In Our House."
"Unspeakable Issue."
I'll introduce the first issue with Tae-joon.
"Hello, I'm a mother raising two sons and a daughter."
"I want to talk about my daughter, Ye-rin."
"It was when Ye-rin went into elementary school."
"Hello? Is this Ye-rin's mother? I'm her homeroom teacher."
"Ye-rin doesn't talk at school."
"She talked a lot at home, so I couldn't believe why she didn't talk at school."
"Hello, I'm Ye-rin's second grade homeroom teacher."
"Ye-rin doesn't speak at all."
"Hello, I'm Ye-rin's third grade homeroom teacher."
- Are the homeroom teachers the same? - They sound the same.
- Their voices sound the same. - Change your voice.
It's the third grade homeroom teacher.
"Hello, I'm Ye-rin's third grade homeroom teacher."
- "Is something wrong with Ye-rin?" - It's a female teacher.
"She doesn't speak at all."
"My daughter Ye-rin, who is in third grade..."
- "doesn't even reply to anyone at school." - Oh my gosh.
There's more.
- "I'm back from school." - "Ye-rin, what's wrong? Are you sick?"
- "I feel so sick." - "You have a fever. Why didn't you tell me?"
"No matter how sick she was, she didn't say anything..."
"and kept it to herself."
- "I wonder what happened to her..." - What's wrong?
"and who made her become like this."
"I feel so heartbroken, and I hope you can help me."
- She doesn't speak at school. - She doesn't speak.
If this happened to your child,
it would be very upsetting. What do you think?
I was worried from the moment I got pregnant.
- What is my child wasn't healthy? - Right.
- I was worried about all kinds of things. - Right.
This is something I felt for the first time as a mother.
- If I heard that my child wasn't speaking at school, - That's upsetting.
- I would be so upset. - Right.
That would be very upsetting.
We've heard an issue about a mother...
who's worried about her daughter that doesn't speak at school.
Let's bring out our guest.
(Kim Sun-hee)
Hello.
(Welcome)
Take off your shoes.
Is it true that Ye-rin doesn't speak at all in school?
- Yes, Ye-rin is in fourth grade right now. - Yes.
But she hasn't said one word until now.
At school?
- Yes. - Does she speak at other places besides school?
Yes. Taking this opportunity,
- I want to tell you my wish. - Yes.
I wish she can...
say "yes" at school bravely.
You must've been very upset.
- Ma'am. - Yes?
- We'll take care of it. - Thank you.
(She's teary thinking about her daughter.)
When did this start?
When Ye-rin was young,
she used to go to a small nursery and moved to a bigger kindergarten.
- It was an unfamiliar environment. - Yes.
She didn't have anyone to talk to, and the other children said,
- "Why aren't you talking?" - The other children?
"I don't think she know how to speak."
"She doesn't know how to speak."
She felt intimidated and didn't speak.
Since it's a big kindergarten, most of them attend the same elementary school.
The teacher called her name,
and the children said, "She doesn't know how to speak!"
- She started to get more intimidated. - I see.
She started to act more timidly.
- Oh my gosh. - Her mother is a very good speaker.
- Right. - What if...
she needs to express her feelings at school? Does she write it?
Even if she needs to borrow an eraser, she doesn't speak.
- She writes it on paper. - On paper?
- She writes it on paper. - This is serious.
When her friends talk to her,
- She doesn't reply. - She just nods or shakes her head.
When she starts the next grade,
- she cries every time. - Why?
She can't speak confidently during first class at school.
The children say, "She can't speak."
- They keep saying that. - Yes.
The teacher says, "Why aren't you speaking? Stand up until you speak."
- This might happen. - The teacher might misunderstand her.
When she comes home, she keeps crying.
We did an interview with Ye-rin earlier.
She didn't speak at first.
So we tried to talk to her in a mobile chat room.
Then she started to react little by little...
and they were able to have a conversation.
Let's take a look at what she said in the mobile chat room.
- "Ye-rin, let me ask you a few things." - "Okay."
She wrote, "I want to express my feelings."
- She wants to talk. - Ye-rin also wants to express her feelings.
- Right? - Yes.
(A typical girl who likes birds and Jjangu)
We found out that she likes the comic book "Jjangu."
We can show her a Jjangu dance after our conversation.
Oola, oola.
- That's a bad idea. - I'm sorry.
Let's meet Ye-rin.
Hello, Ye-rin.
- Hello. - Hello.
- Ye-rin is pretty. - Yes.
Can you introduce yourself for us?
Can you say hi?
Hello.
(Nervous)
Hello, I am...
- Fourth grade? - Jang Ye-rin, and I'm a fourth grader.
- Ye-rin has beautiful lips. - Don't worry.
Your friends are not here.
We are your friends, and we're cheering for you.
We are all middle-aged men and women. Don't worry.
Who are you calling middle-aged?
- He meant me. - I was talking about her.
Ye-rin, I'm not middle-aged.
- Think of me as a sister. - She's a few years older than your mother.
(Speechless)
Ye-rin, how do you feel today? Tell us honestly.
- I feel good. - You feel good?
Although you're nervous, do you feel all right?
Is there an entertainer you like in here?
- An entertainer that you like. - I like Yeong-ja.
An entertainer that you like.
I like Yeong-ja.
(Standing up)
(A Jjangu dance ceremony)
(Thank you, Ye-rin.)
- Keep dancing. - She's really good.
She's really good.
Oola, oola.
When your mom asked you to come out today, I heard you said yes.
Why did you decide to come out?
I wanted to gain more courage.
- Courage? - Courage.
- You don't speak at school? - Yes.
- I see. - But don't you want to speak?
- Yes. - I see.
She wants to speak, but it doesn't come out easily. Did you know?
- At school? - Yes. At the beginning of the school term,
- Yes. - she promises me.
"Mom, I'll go to school and say hi..."
- "and reply to everyone." She promises me. - Yes.
I asked her, "Ye-rin, did you speak at school today?"
She suddenly cries. I asked her why.
She told me that she went to school...
and tried to say hi to the other children.
She practiced saying hi 100 times alone in the bathroom.
She went inside the classroom and started to say, "hi"
- but her voice didn't come out. - She couldn't say it.
During an English acting class,
- parents were allowed to come and watch. - Yes.
- Since Ye-rin didn't speak, she just held a basket. - Yes.
I told her, "You did a good job today."
"Were you happy you didn't speak?"
"Mom, I know how to speak in English..."
"but I just had to hold the basket."
- "I was so upset." - She felt upset.
She told me she wanted to receive counseling.
- She received counseling for two years. - What happened?
Did it improve after receiving counseling?
She still can't say, "yes."
But the counseling teacher told me not to pressure her and wait.
- She gave me a lot of advice. - I see.
Do you know why Ye-rin became like this?
She didn't speak much, and everyone thought that she couldn't speak.
If she spoke, she thought that she would receive attention.
- She was afraid of that situation. - Receiving attention?
Yes. During kindergarten,
I met her kindergarten teacher once.
She told me, "Ma'am, Ye-rin doesn't know how to speak!"
"Take her to the hospital."
- She said this in front of Ye-rin. - Oh my gosh.
Ye-rin started to cry so much.
- I think that hurt her feelings. - Yes.
- She must've been hurt really bad. - Ye-rin didn't do anything wrong.
Your family must be worried also.
Her brother is in the sixth grade, and they go to school together.
He talks and holds her backpack for her, and makes jokes.
He's a reliable son.
- He's going to junior high soon. - Yes.
Ye-rin will be left alone at school now.
I'm kind of worried about that.
- I understand. - I heard that your son is the student vice president.
Ye-rin wanted to be called "the sister of the student vice president."
Her brother told her,
"You should brag about me in class."
- They made a promise. - Ye-rin asked him first?
- She wanted to be called "the sister of the student vice president?" - Yes.
- Ye-rin asked him first? - Yes.
- Why are you surprised? - I think she likes elections.
That young child wants to become a secret powerful person.
She has ambition.
(What?)
Although he didn't win,
- he was still a proud brother. - He didn't win?
- He didn't win? - The votes were very close.
- The votes are always very close. - Yes.
- Her brother is very reliable and kind. - Yes.
He made a promise with his sister.
- It's not easy to run for student vice president. - Right.
Let's meet him.
Hello.
- Hello, I'm Jang Ho-in, and I'm a sixth grader. - Hello.
His voice is changing through puberty.
- His voice is getting deeper. - Yes.
As a brother, what do you want your sister to be like?
I hope she can speak...
- and be happy with her class friends. - Be happy?
- Yes. - Does she look unhappy now?
- Yes. - What is she like at home?
Does she talk a lot?
When Ye-rin's at home, she calls me a pig idiot.
A pig idiot?
- She makes jokes. - Ye-rin, you told us you liked Yeong-ja.
(Ye-rin, whatever makes you happy)
She knows how to make jokes.
- What is she like at school? - What?
- What is she like at school? - She wears a strange expression...
and just shakes her hands and doesn't speak.
- You must be upset. - Yes, it makes me upset.
- I see. - Is the person sitting next to you her father?
- It's so obvious. - Yes, I'm her father.
- It would be weird if he wasn't her father. - I'm Ye-rin's father.
How do you feel?
- It breaks my heart. - Yes.
- I also get shy often. - Yes.
I'm not a good speaker.
I think she might have got this from me.
- Parents can feel this way. - Right.
- If their child has problems, - Yes.
- they get worried it's because of them. - I feel sorry for her.
This might sound off the topic.
This is something that happened to me in the morning.
My son went to the bathroom...
and told me that he was finished.
- I went in to help him clean up. - Yes.
He should've been embarrassed or thankful.
He said, "Get poop on your hands!"
I was worried he was becoming like me.
He kind of sounded like me.
- He's acting like you already. - It's because of you.
Yes. Parents all think in the same way about their children.
- Ye-rin, I'm curious about something. - He's a handsome guy.
- Her face changed. - Wait a minute.
Her face changed.
Do you think he's handsome?
Yes.
Is he the most handsome person here?
I think there's someone else.
She's thinking about someone else.
- Who's more handsome than him? - There's someone else.
- Tell us the number, from 1 to 6. - I feel nervous.
- Is it Chi-yeul? - Go this way.
- I'm the man from "Animal Farm." - Number 1, 2, 3, 4,
5, and 6.
She might have a unique taste.
Ye-rin, you shouldn't pick me. I'm not a man.
Ye-rin, don't worry and choose who you like.
What number?
(Nervous)
Number one.
(She chose Chi-yeul.)
It's Chi-yeul.
- Say something to Ye-rin. - Talk to her.
Children don't lie.
- The less handsome guy will ask you something. - Are you mad?
- He's upset. - He's upset that she didn't choose him.
Is it difficult to talk to your teacher?
You never talked with your teacher?
No.
Do you want to talk with your teacher?
- But you have trouble speaking? - Yes.
Her teachers might be watching this show...
- and hearing her voice for the first time. - Yes.
We wanted to bring her homeroom teacher here,
but Ye-rin might have felt uncomfortable with her teacher around.
- She might have not spoken. - Right.
We've prepared a phone call with her teacher.
Ye-rin, can you call your teacher for us?
Ready, go!
Teacher.
Can you speak a little louder?
- Teacher. - Good.
- Good job. - Teacher!
- Are you there? - Hello?
- Hello. - Hello.
Hello.
- Is it true that you never heard her voice? - Yes.
At school,
- I was disappointed because I couldn't hear her voice at all. - Yes.
I was watching this show from the beginning,
and I'm really touched right now.
I'm so proud of her.
What do you think of her voice?
It sounds cuter than I thought.
- Yes. - She looks very cute also.
She has a very cute voice.
I hope I can hear her voice more often at school.
- Yes. - Can you call her name for us?
Hello, Ye-rin.
Say hello.
(Will Ye-rin speak to her teacher?)
- Say hello. - Hello.
- This is a really touching moment. - Yes.
- Good job. - Although this sounds strange,
her teacher probably wanted to hear her voice so much.
What do you think about Ye-rin's reply?
- I'm so happy right now. - Yes.
I'm happy to be able to hear her voice on TV.
Can you compliment her? What is she like?
Ye-rin is...
one of the most sincere students in our class.
She especially likes to draw.
When she submits her drawing,
it's looks amazing.
She's good with her hands.
I'm always proud of what she can do.
How does she get along with her friends?
- She's best friends with Jo-un in our class. - Yes.
Jo-un is her closest friend and takes care of her.
- Jo-un? - Yes.
Let's meet her best friend who's here today.
- Hello. - Hello, Jo-un.
Hello, I'm Kim Jo-un and I'm a fourth grader.
- Hello. - Hello.
- Her other friend is Cho-eun. - Cho-eun.
Hello, I'm Baek Cho-eun and I'm a fourth grader.
- Hello. - Hello.
- They're Jo-un and Cho-eun. - Jo-un and Cho-eun.
- Jo-un. - Their names sound similar.
What kind of friend is Ye-rin?
She's positive and bright.
She also has a pretty voice.
- You look really positive. - You look really bright.
(She agrees.)
- Does Ye-rin speak to you a lot? - Yes.
Did she speak to you a lot since the beginning of school?
During the first semester, my friend and I...
- tickled her... - Yes.
and tried to make her speak.
(Fast forwarding)
- Ye-rin is... - You talk too much! Tell us simply.
- It's all right. - Let her speak.
- She started talking a lot when we went to Jo-un's house. - I see.
Jo-un, what kind of friend is Ye-rin?
- She doesn't have any flaws. - Really?
- She's a real friend. - That's not a human being...
- if she doesn't have any flaws. - She's human.
Do other children want to speak with Ye-rin?
Besides you two?
- Ye-rin doesn't reply to them? - No.
When no one's looking,
she talks to me quietly in the bathroom.
- She uses short sentences. - Ye-rin.
Do you feel uncomfortable when other children...
- see you talk with Jo-un? - Are you embarrassed?
I feel uncomfortable.
Since you haven't talked for so long, right?
- Yes. - But don't you think you'll be a good speaker once you start?
Better than now?
- I think so. - Yes, I thought so.
- She has many things to say. - Yes.
As her reliable brother,
what do you think has to be done to make her talk?
My mom...
always asks Ye-rin if she spoke at school today.
- She asks this often. - That makes her uncomfortable.
- Ye-rin feels uncomfortable replying to this. - Yes.
I hope my mom doesn't put pressure on her like this.
- Your mom needs to wait. - What an amazing brother.
- He's a great brother. - He's so mature for a sixth grader.
What do you think your mom should do?
- My mom lacks sympathy. - What?
- Sympathy. - Sympathy.
- He thinks his mom needs to sympathize more. - I see.
She needs to sympathize more.
How do you talk with Ye-rin at home?
"Ye-rin, did you speak at school today or not?"
"Did you say yes or no? What did you say?"
- "Did you speak or not?" - You scold her.
Do you keep asking her questions, not giving her a chance to reply?
Yes.
Ye-rin, when does your mom make you the most uncomfortable?
- When she asks me if I spoke at school. - Right.
She feels uncomfortable because she keeps asking.
- Does it feel uncomfortable? - Why is it hard for you?
- I would also like to talk, - Yes?
but nothing comes out.
Did you know Miss Ye-rin felt like that?
Miss Ye-rin?
No, I didn't.
I was getting really anxious about...
whether she would be able to make friends or not.
- Actually, there's a parents teacher conference starting from first grade. - Yes.
But the other mothers...
- would point and ask their kids, "That's the girl who can't talk, right?" - Oh.
That would really stress me out.
- That's why I felt like I had to push her harder. - I see.
We got a professional to talk about her symptoms.
It's not for sure,
but she believes Ye-rin is suffering from selective mutism.
She chooses to be silent in a...
special area with a lot of people.
- Oh. - Did you know that?
- I think she's right. - Oh?
- Ye-rin is able to talk in a new environment like this. - Yes?
But when someone tells her, "You can't speak, can you?"
- If it's an environment with that kind of atmosphere, - Yes.
- she won't ever speak. - Oh.
But if thing's go along naturally,
- she starts to talk. - I'm sure. She knows.
It all started because she kept thinking to herself that she couldn't talk.
I think you're making that same toxic environment at home.
- Did you talk today? - Or didn't you?
She knows that you would like her to talk,
but she's being forced to say that she didn't.
- That's why she can't reply. - It upsets her.
- For four years, that kept continuing, not only in school... - That's right.
- but also at home. - Home.
"Ye-rin, you can speak whenever you want to."
- That might have made her more comfortable. - You should have been patient.
From your perspective,
what kind of mother do you think your wife is?
- She... - Yes?
kept talking just now. As you can see,
she's not the type to talk with Ye-rin in a kind and friendly way.
- She isn't? - No.
- I see. - Apparently, she isn't.
You said, "As you can see," but she didn't seem like that kind of person.
But thank you for being honest about your opinion.
The husband must have some issues with his wife as well.
- Let's hear it. - No, I don't.
I wish she would give Ye-rin some more time.
- Be a little more easygoing? - Yes.
It'd be better if she could try to understand her more.
Your wife has a very hasty personality, doesn't she?
I can't say she doesn't.
From what I can tell from the tone of her voice, she's a bright person.
To people who are shy and introverted, her outgoing, bright personality...
- might feel forceful. - They're always come talk to you.
I'd like to know...
When you found out about Ye-rin staying quiet at school,
did you try attempting to gather all of Ye-rin's friends...
- and help them all get along? - Oh.
- Like during a birthday party? - Yes.
It might sound like an excuse and I'm really sorry towards Ye-rin for this...
but we never had a birthday party for her.
- We never invited her friends over. - Oh.
After having three kids, I was always busy working.
Every time I come home, I'd fall asleep right away.
I should have tried to take care of her better...
but I wasn't able to do anything like that for her.
Ye-rin, have you ever thought...
of inviting all your friends over to have a birthday party?
- A birthday party. - Yes.
- You'd like to have a birthday party? - Yes.
- She wanted a party. - How many friends would you invite over if you had a party?
- Maybe she hasn't thought of it... - About five people.
- Five people? - Who are those five people?
- You'd call Cho-eun for sure. - Yes, she would invite Cho-eun.
You never know.
- It's Ye-rin's birthday. - Not her.
Yes, you never know.
Any boys?
- Oh. - She wouldn't be able to answer you. That's embarrassing.
It's okay. I'm sure Cho-eun will invite three of her friends.
She looks popular, after all.
Anyway, let's hear what Ye-rin has to say.
Song-yeon, Han-byeol, Moon-Hui.
- Han-byeol and... - There's Han-byeol.
Han-byeol.
- Song-yeon... - Cho-eun, it's not your turn to speak yet.
She's just like me when I was a kid.
(She can't keep still.)
I would really like to ask what your menu is.
- What? - Chicken.
- Chicken? - Chicken?
Hey, Cultwo Chicken.
We'll send it to your house.
Yes, send her some.
- We'll send you ten. - Give her some coupons.
When's your birthday? I should make a note.
- August 4th. - August 4th?
- It's really far away. - Oh.
Think again carefully. You were born on January, right?
(Think again carefully. You were born on January, right?)
- You sure it's not January 4th? - Yes?
We'll send it over to you for Christmas. You can have a party then.
- Christmas sounds good. - Yes.
- It's because... - Wow.
your birthday is so far away. Your mother...
feels very sorry that she couldn't have a party for you.
That's why you should hold a Christmas party for her.
Your friends might see you on today's show,
when it gets broadcast. You should say hi to them.
Start with "Everyone."
Everyone, I would also like to talk with all of you.
- She spoke really well! - Wow!
I'll get you your chicken!
- Wow. - What?
They're all already here?
- Wow. - They're Ye-rin's friends.
- Welcome. - There's a boy!
Ye-rin, there's a boy here too.
- Hello. - How cute.
- Come sit out in the front. - Come.
- Did you all come here for Ye-rin? - Sit.
Sit.
- Everyone, introduce yourselves. - Let's introduce ourselves.
I'm in class 4-5.
I'm Ahn Hyo-sung.
Also, tell Ye-rin whatever you want to say.
Ye-rin.
It'd be nice if you could talk to everyone more.
How did you feel about hearing Ye-rin's voice?
- It's your first time hearing it, right? - Yes.
- How was it? - Her voice was really pretty.
(Her voice was really pretty.)
- Wow! - He thinks it was pretty!
I'm in class 4-5. I'm Kim Song-yeon.
- You're that Song-yeon. - She's that Song-yeon.
Ye-rin, your voice is pretty...
so talk to me more.
You should reply, "Sure" to her.
- Sure. - Wow.
(Tearing up)
- Song-yeon. - The way you speak is cute and pretty,
but I think it'll be better if you talked more.
I wish Ye-rin would speak more to the other classmates...
during our recess in school.
Ye-rin, you always speak to me in the bathroom.
I wish you would talk as much as you want in the classroom too.
- She wants you to talk more in the classroom. - Oh.
(Her friends would like to get closer to Ye-rin.)
See, Ye-rin?
All of your friends would like to talk to you...
and become closer to you.
Can you tell them...
what you plan to do from now on?
Thanks for coming out today.
- And? What are you going to do? - Invite them over for chicken.
No, let's let Ye-rin say what she wants.
- We'll wait. - Yes, we'll wait for you.
(I'm sorry for pressuring you.)
(I'll wait as much as you want from now on.)
You don't have to say something long.
You're still close even if you call their names.
- You should call out their names. - Yes.
- Name? - Hyo-sung.
She knows who you are!
(When she calls out your name,)
Ye-rin knows who you are. Congratulations!
You can go eat chicken on Christmas.
(You can go to her home and eat chicken!)
Song-yeon, Min-seo, Ha-eun, Han-byeol.
Let's be friends.
(Clapping)
- Ye-rin. - She wants to be friends.
You should invite them over for Christmas.
I invite you all...
- What's the menu? - Chicken.
(Laughing)
Thank you, you can go back to your seat.
- Good job. - Good job.
- Thank you, guys. - Thank you.
- Thank you. - You can go to Ye-rin.
You can go sit next to Ye-rin.
Thank you, everyone.
(On Christmas Eve, Ye-rin spent a great time with more of her friends.)
(Everyone. From now on, let's make some great memories together!)
(Smiling)
Look, Mother! Seven of her friends have come here today.
Don't you feel reassured?
Also, their homeroom teacher have been listening to us talk.
- She's still on the phone? - She didn't hang up?
- Is that true? - Teacher?
Her arms must hurt.
- Yes? - Oh!
- It's your teacher. - Your teacher...
- Your teacher... - This is so touching.
Can we ask you why you didn't hang up?
Was it because of the chicken?
No. I was so surprised when I heard Ye-rin...
- talking to her friends. - I see.
That's why I couldn't help but keep listening.
- That's so touching. - Thank you.
- You're so awesome. - Before you hang up,
- Yes? - can you say something to Ye-rin?
Ye-rin, your classmates and I will always be there,
cheering for you.
So good luck, Ye-rin. You can do it.
Thank you.
- That's great. - Thank you, Teacher.
- Thank you. - No problem.
Thank you.
Chi-yeul, do you think this is an issue?
- I think it's an issue. - Yes?
- I also think it's a big issue. - Yes.
The educators and the parents...
really play a big role in helping the kid.
I was able to see the importance of those roles.
- I think this is an important issue. - I see.
If everyone would just...
understand that they need to be patient with Ye-rin,
I think it'll help in making school more comfortable for her.
- I hope everyone around her can help her. - Yes.
That's why I also think it's an issue.
If you think it's an issue for our guest, press the button.
(What does the audience think?)
- In 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. - In 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
- Stop. - Stop.
Do you have anything you would like to say to your parents?
From now on,
I won't cause you any trouble, and listen to you better.
- Wait, you weren't any trouble. - No, Ye-rin, you're not trouble.
No, I think she meant to say don't cause me any trouble.
You're saying she was telling that to her mother?
She doesn't want her mother to cause any more trouble.
Please, don't cause her any trouble.
- You should tell your parents you love them. - Yes.
- I love you. - Ye-rin.
(I love you, Mom and Dad.)
- Don't lose your confidence. - Yes.
Let's see how many votes this issue got. Show us the result.
The last digit is...
I think she got over 100 for sure.
Is it 192?
It's 152!
(This issue received 152 votes.)
- "You're So Smart." - Oh?
- From the title, it doesn't seem like it'll be a big issue. - No, it doesn't.
"Hello."
"I'm a 30 year-old housewife living in Asan."
"Can I tell you about how much I had to endure all this time?"
I feel like I'm listening to a radio.
"When my husband..."
"went overboard on buying equipments for baseball,"
"I endured it."
"He said he'd stop smoking..."
"and went to buy a 1,000 dollar electric cigarette."
"Even then,"
- A 1,000 dollar cigarette? - Why?
"I endured it."
"Eventually, he went on to smoke both the regular and electric cigarette."
"What did I do then?"
"I endured it." - Endured it.
(I endured it!)
"But this time, I just can't endure it anymore!"
"Whenever new models of smart phones come out, my husband..."
"can't help but buy the newest model of each series."
"He also has to go out and buy every new smart device."
"He's not a celebrity, but he always carries around three smart phones."
"Because he's always looking at his smart phones,"
"once, when he was frying pork cutlets in the restaurant,"
"he ended up putting his hand into the fryer."
"Oh my gosh! I cut my hand! I'm bleeding so badly!"
"But luckily, the cellphone's okay."
"The cellphone's okay."
"Can you please help me..."
"do something about my husband?"
(Please help me stop him.)
Let's bring out our guest.
(Who's the guest having issues with her husband being too obsessed with his phones?)
(Park Na-Yeong)
Welcome.
Just how many smart phones has your husband bought?
You know how Samsung has several series of phone models, right?
- S1 and so on? - Yes.
- He bought all of them. - Wow.
Currently, he owns one tablet PC,
two Smart watches,
one SmartBand, and three smart phones.
- SmartBand? - Wow.
- Why is he using three smart phones? - He uses all three?
- He uses one for playing games in WiFi areas. - Games?
He uses the other one for calling someone.
He uses the last one to watch movies.
- Movies? - Yes.
- Each one is used differently? - Why can't he do everything on one device?
- That must be expensive. - It's really expensive.
Every month, the bills come out to be 500 to 1,500 dollars.
- It cost 500 to 1,500 dollars? - Yes.
- In one month? - Yes.
- You have to pay that every month? - Yes.
- When he buys the cellphones, he has to also get accessories. - Like a case?
He gets various colors.
- Colors? - He also gets various materials.
- Wow. - Yes.
- For his phone case? - Yes.
(It gets worse when he works.)
He works in the kitchen...
so he uses a lot of knives and needs to be more careful.
But once, he was frying something when he suddenly screamed. When I got there,
he was shaking his burnt hand and using the other to look at his cellphone.
Back then, was he watching a movie or playing a game?
- What was he doing? - Playing a game.
- Game? - In the kitchen, there are three...
cellphone holders.
- He's so "smart." - He puts his cellphones there.
- Does he still have them on when he's busy? - Yes, he does.
- Even if he's not watching it. - It's on 24 hours a day.
It's on when he sleeps too.
People who like games...
always keep their cellphones on.
- They need to level up their characters. - I don't get it.
Let's meet her husband.
He looks really normal.
(It makes you angrier that he looks so normal.)
- Hello. - Hello.
Why did you buy so many smart devices?
- Don't men have something like that? - Like you're falling behind trend?
Yes, like you're falling behind. You have to have everything...
in order for you to feel secure.
If I buy it late,
I feel like I'm falling behind the times.
They call people like me "early adopters."
Are early adopters people who buy the latest devices?
When a new device comes out,
there are some kinds you can resell...
Are you doing this because you own a blog?
- Oh, that's... - Do you write about the specs...
- as a hobby? - No, I don't do that.
Early adopters are people who adapt well to new devices.
You can't become an early adopter just by buying a new device.
Well, they do also buy the latest devices.
- Do you really think you need all of those? - I want to know too.
- Yes, I bought them because I need them all. - Why?
But you can watch a movie and use the phone using just one.
What game do you play?
(He plays a RPG game where you need to put in a lot of time.)
- He has to keep it on. - Whenever the ads come out, it gets annoying so...
I can understand why...
- he would need a Bluetooth earpiece for his work. - Yes.
- About that Smart... - SmartBand?
Yes, the band.
Do you work out a lot?
Well, I'm not working out right now...
Then, do you really need to check your heart rate?
Do you use it to take the pork cutlet's temperature?
No, it can't be used that way.
Even though this is your hobby,
- shouldn't you also take into account your financial stability? - Yes.
Your wife is having a hard time managing the store.
It's not like I always buy the newest device.
There's a lot of sites selling secondhand things.
I sometimes buy things for cheaper on those sites.
And if something new comes out, I buy that and sell my other ones.
It doesn't take a lot of money...
- You're saying it's okay because you're selling your old models? - Yes.
I don't really spend a lot of money.
- But still, compared to the cost of the new model... - Yes.
- the resell value is much lower. - He can be so impulsive.
- Impulsive? - Yes, he buys and sells, buys and sell...
Before I came here, I took a look at his phone records.
He changed models 155 times.
There's 52 weeks in a year.
So if it's four years,
- that means he changed model every 10 days. - Wow.
- Ten? - Yes.
I don't know about anything else,
but when you see your husband always looking at his phone,
don't you get angry?
There has been a lot of previous guests with that same exact issue.
The husband wouldn't help...
and would always stare into their phones at home.
We have a son who's 26 months old.
Because he's a boy, it can be tough to take care of him.
- Yes, the father needs to help out. - He has to.
- Yes. I heard this is an important time for the father to play with him.
But when he gets home, he goes straight to the living room...
and goes to charge his three cellphones.
- Oh. - He turns on two for the game...
- and use one to look at social media. - What about the kid?
The kid plays by himself.
When I'm cooking or cleaning, he always comes to bother me.
I know I should help out more...
But it's not like I never play with the kid.
- Oh? - I set up a trampoline...
inside our house.
I also got him a slide.
How long do you play with him?
About 20 minutes?
How much time do you spend on your cellphone compared to playing with your kid?
Probably 99 to 1.
He uses it during his work too.
(How can he say that so shamelessly?)
- When got you really angry? - We're the only ones living in our building.
I asked him to look over the kid.
I felt someone following me, so I looked...
and saw a barely walking baby...
grabbing the handrails to come all the way down to the first floor.
- What? - The first floor?
Oh my.
- What was the father doing? - He was playing games.
You should have just taken that phone away from him.
- That was dangerous. - He would have just bought it again.
I carried my kid all the way upstairs and started yelling at him.
Do you feel bad for what you did back then?
That could have been really dangerous.
- Yes. - Did you play less?
No. She came and cursed at me.
Did you start playing less after that?
No, I still play it a lot.
(That makes me feel angrier.)
May I ask if you drink alcohol?
Alcohol? I love them.
- You do? - Yes.
- What about smoking? - He also smokes.
- He does both. - He drinks and smokes.
Including game, that's three.
Normally, when people come out here...
When they're obsessed with smart phones,
they always say they don't drink or smoke.
But you do all three.
(There's no end to this onion-like man.)
You're not only obsessed with smart phones.
- You have a lot of issues. - Any bad drinking habits?
Because of his drinking habits,
I wondered if I should divorce him in the beginning of our marriage.
He is such a bad drunk.
- What kind of bad drinking habits does he have? - What kind?
He goes up to those human-shaped signs in front of stores...
- and goes around breaking them. - Oh dear.
(He's like Pandora's Box.)
- You are just full of surprises, aren't you? - Oh my...
- This is... - Wow.
- It's rare for someone to have all these problems. - Yes.
This is pretty rare.
- You're something special. - It's crazy.
He's the real deal. Do you play with claw machines?
- I used to like playing with them when I was... - Oh my gosh!
(Alcohol, Cigarette, E-cigar, Game Addict)
Do you blank out?
- Yes, I don't remember anything. - You shouldn't drink like that.
- I'm surprised he didn't get hurt. - People like him shouldn't drink.
It'll be the full set if he had a gambling addiction.
Why don't you ask him?
Do you gamble?
I'm really proud of this one thing.
I can't even play Go-Stop.
- I can't even play Go-Stop. - Good for you.
- You must be proud. - Good job.
The only thing he can't do is gamble.
How much time do you spend on your cellphone compared to playing with your kid?
He can be so impulsive.
I took a look at his phone records. He changed models 155 times.
- Any bad drinking habits? - He breaks things?
(He has all the bad points!)
(There's no end to this man.)
(Please look forward to how this man changes.)
- This is so... - All right.
Some of the husband's friends have come...
joined us here today.
- Hello. - Hello.
Nice to meet you.
His wife had issues with her husband's smart phone addiction.
Were you aware of this?
Back in college, we used to perform together.
During practice, he would always look at his cellphone...
- and miss his cue. - What?
- He missed his cue? - Yes.
Eventually, during the spring performance,
he missed his cue on stage.
- What? - Yes.
- That's crazy. - It really bothered us.
Speaking of that,
every morning, noon, night,
and even at dawn, he messages me.
When I check it, they're all game messages.
- Those messages that tell you to send them items? - Yes.
- Even at dawn? - Yes, even at dawn.
Because of that, I ended up blocking him.
(I ended up blocking him.)
When I first saw his wife...
I mean, she's still very pretty.
- But she was very pretty. - She's pretty.
- She's still pretty. - But she looks exhausted.
But after she married my friend,
it seems like time has done it's worst on her.
- That's funny. - It's funny but also sad.
- He's laughing. - This friend is so immature.
When he bought a new cellphone,
- You're really going out today, aren't you? - Yes.
- So when he bought it, - He might not be his friend.
- he send me a video file. - Yes.
It was a video...
of his wife working in the kitchen.
She was pounding the meat with a metal hammer...
and frying the pork cutlets in the fryer.
He even...
added a slow motion effect to the video before he sent it to me.
How did you feel?
- How did you feel when you saw it? - Yes.
You might have thought, "So this is how they make pork cutlet."
- No. - He's so immature.
How could he take a video...
- of his wife working? - You should have said something to him as his friend.
(How would he scold his friend?)
- Say something. - Say it.
- He just glared at him. - Look at his eyes.
In that short amount of time,
I can tell how many curse words he sent through his eyes.
That was scary.
Say something to your friend.
- Yang-jin. - Yes?
You should start acting your age.
Your wife came to talk about her issue.
- But she looks very tired. - Looks so exhausted.
Yes, she looks exhausted. How did your wife look...
before your marriage? Your friend said she was very pretty.
Like Sandra Park.
- I see it. - She looked very similar to her.
She looks similar.
But now?
She does look exhausted.
You say she looked exhausted, right?
Whose fault do you think that is?
(Whose fault is it that the wife is so exhausted?)
- Is it because of me? - Yes.
(Yes, sir.)
I believe so.
But, she also work long hours...
We're not saying it's completely your fault.
- But... - But you're not helping her.
There are some things you can help her with,
but you're always too busy with your smart phone...
- to really pay any attention to her. - But,
I think it all comes down to the game.
- Game addiction. - Yes, this is game addiction.
This all happened because he's ...
so caught up in how others look at him.
His level of happiness is being decided by how others see him.
- It's not a very simple problem. - The more I think about it,
the problem seems to go very deep.
What else are you worried about when your husband has a game addiction?
When he's walking,
- he's too busy looking at his phone... - That's really dangerous.
Once, there was a time when he fell into a manhole.
- He fell into a manhole? - What?
It's really dangerous.
- Not that long ago, I tried out that virtual reality device. - Oh?
One of my friends actually fell into a manhole, using that device.
- He had to get 17 stitches. - Oh no.
I thought he was so pathetic.
What about driving?
- He is pathetic. - He's 41 years old.
- He's 41 years old? - Yes, he's 41 years old.
What about when he's driving?
- Before, since it was the highway... - That's dangerous.
there are times when you speed up to 140 and 150.
You can clearly see a car in front of him.
He should stop but he wasn't stopping.
I yelled, "Stop the car! Brake!." Then he finally stepped...
- on the brake. - Oh.
- If I didn't say anything... - It would have been bad.
That's really serious.
- You had your kid there too. - Yes.
He must go over the car lanes a lot.
Yes. Even though he's driving, he always has to check his messages.
- That's dangerous. - No matter what.
It's more dangerous to text and drive than it is to drink and drive.
It really is.
If you're distracted by your cellphone for even one second,
it's the same as if you were driving 20m blindfolded.
Don't you realize how dangerous that is?
I know it's dangerous.
Then, you shouldn't do it.
I know I shouldn't...
but I can't help it.
(I can't help but keep doing that.)
We prepared some video footage of how dangerous it can be.
(Source: Youtube)
(It just took two seconds.)
This came on the news recently.
(Because of one driver's carelessness...)
(Dashcam, The footage of him using his cellphone)
Oh no.
Those people all died.
It was on the news recently.
- Oh my... - That truck driver...
was too busy looking at his cellphone...
to see that the car in front of him stopped.
He hit them.
It only took two to three seconds.
Because it was a truck...
These people were all...
- killed. - The truck driver...
who ran over these families was sentenced to...
about 10 years in jail.
How do you feel watching this video?
It's similar to how you drive.
I feel complicated.
You really shouldn't use your cellphone when you drive.
- That's just... - It shouldn't be done.
- You shouldn't. - I'm sure you're feeling a lot of things.
But is there some special reason you're so obsessed with your cellphone?
I feel like this addiction got worse...
back when I was moved from Incheon to Asan.
I felt so empty inside.
My family's still here with me...
but I ended up far away from my friends.
I get lonely very easily.
I can't even eat by myself.
Also, my mother-in-law lives together with us.
I can't help but be conscious of her.
- It's like... - Did you move into...
- your wife's family's house? - Yes, we moved into her family's house.
After getting stressed from that,
I started to become more addicted to my phones.
- He left his hometown. - Basically,
you're saying that's why you're addicted, right?
I know it's not easy to live together with your mother-in-law.
Of course not.
But the building our store is in belongs to my mother.
We went to Asan, planning to tough it out for several years.
In hopes to save on rent?
Yes. I wanted to hurry and make money.
I wanted to make money because we...
had to take care of our baby and the family.
But he kept spending them all like this.
- So I... - Your husband spends it all on smart phones.
Meanwhile, you saved without spending any money on yourself?
Well, I prioritize my baby over me...
and prioritize my husband over my baby.
- After you marry... - Yes.
- people... - I didn't think I'd become like this.
And then, one day, my husband was so burnt out that he...
suggested we stop working and go back to Incheon.
That's what he said.
That's being so irresponsible.
We weren't able to accomplish anything. What will we do back in Incheon?
We don't even have any money.
(She wishes he would be more responsible.)
- Those things... - What were you...
- planning to do back in Incheon? - What?
You can only meet friends and have some leisure...
if you work and save up money, right?
Yes, as the head of a family, I should be responsible...
and do whatever I have to do.
Do you have any plans?
You'll be less lonely in Incheon?
Yes, I probably wouldn't look at my cellphone as much.
- Oh dear. - What about financial...
That's not what I was asking.
I would like to tell the husband something.
You said you look at your cellphone because you're lonely.
But your wife gets even lonelier when she sees you using the cellphone.
She won't feel like she's together with you.
- She'll feel invisible. - Yes.
She'll wonder why she's even there.
Before today, I never knew she had those kind of thoughts.
- Are you starting to feel sorry for her? - Yes.
I feel sorry.
- Women in particular have a strong pride. - Yes they do.
Afraid their friends would badmouth their husband,
they tend to keep quiet. Even when they're visiting their family,
they stay even more silent because...
they don't want to worry their family or hear them badmouth their husband.
That's why she'll become more lonelier.
Even then, for her to have come out on TV like this...
shows that she's willing to throw away her pride...
and bare it all to her friends and family, even if they badmouth you.
- That's how desperate she was. - Yes.
Even though it's tough working, taking care of the kid, and so on,
if the husband would just pat her on the back and say thank you,
she'd become so happy, her exhaustion would melt away.
But because you haven't done that, she can't help but feel drained.
- She's in that kind of situation. - Here.
Women get lonely even if they're together.
Because she came to talk about and let out everything on her mind today...
Because her husband and everyone is listening to her story,
it's slowly starting to melt away.
That's exactly what I was talking about.
She's not asking for anything special.
If you want to say something, you can say it.
- Anything to your husband... - Here, wipe your tears.
The good thing about our program...
is that it creates a place where people can listen.
- Back at home, they can't help but fight and yell at each other. - That's true.
But here, we always listen.
It's because everyone's watching.
Yes, everyone's listening.
This is your first time hearing the whole story,
isn't it?
Thank you.
(Communication and love are very important in marriages.)
Anything you'd like to say to your husband?
Instead of playing games,
- I want you to focus on your work during your work time. - Work...
- so that you can play during your rest time. - Yes.
I also really want you to do me this favor.
When we're sleeping, even though we have a baby,
he plugs in five chargers over our heads.
That's why I put those stickers that shield against electromagnetic waves...
all over our house.
I felt so pathetic while I was sticking them.
- I would wonder why I was doing this. - I see.
Also, our baby doesn't really follow his father.
When he tries to hug or kiss him, the baby pushes him away.
I wish you could get closer...
- to your baby as his father. - What if your kid drift away from you?
Aren't you worried about that?
I am worried about that.
Then, you should try harder to change.
- Be specific. - Yes, be specific.
What will you do for your wife?
I won't take out my cellphone when I go back home.
- I'll also play more with our baby. - That sounds good.
- What about when you work? - Yes, don't use it while you're frying things.
And don't use it when you're driving.
- Yes. - Never text and drive.
Shall we move on to the guest votes?
- I think it's an issue. - Yes.
Jeong-hoon, you looked really antsy about this subject.
He kept whispering and sighing about that game.
Actually, I also have a game addiction.
- Oh. - He said he wouldn't take out his cellphone back home, right?
- That's impossible. - Then how...
He'll need to go play another game.
There are games he can play for one or two hours a day.
Recommend him something.
I'll recommend it to you later.
Something that wouldn't take so long.
This family has no husband.
There's no father.
Bathing the baby and playing with him for 20 minutes?
A neighbor could do something like that. Right now, it might be just games...
- but next time, he might get addicted to another thing. - Oh.
I think you should seriously think about...
what kind of husband and father you'd like to be.
- So you think this is an issue? - Absolutely.
You say a neighbor could bathe the baby, but that's kind of strange.
I know you meant well but...
But you should try to understand the husband too. He was forced...
to go to his wife's family. He has no friends. All day,
he's stuck in that space...
working with the wife and stuck in the space with his mother-in-law.
You're on the same team here.
I hope you can trust that you're both working for each other.
If you think it's an issue for our guest,
press the button.
(What does the audience think?)
- In 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. - In 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
- Stop. - Stop.
Show us the result.
"Unspeakable Issue" had 152 votes.
Let's see how much this gets.
They'll win if they get 158 votes.
(Let's see...)
- That's still a lot. - That is.
You got a lot.
"The Devil In Our House."
"Hello, I'm the pitiable second daughter of the family."
"Before I start, let me introduce my family."
"There are my parents and my older sister who's 20 years old."
"There's me."
"Then, there's my younger sister who's a freshman in high school."
"And there's another sister who's a freshman in junior high."
"And there's also my four year-old brother."
What? Four years old?
- "And my two year-old brother." - Another one?
"We have six children in our family."
- Those parents must get along well. - Yes.
"I would like to report the biggest nuisance in our family."
"Water, water, water! Get me some water! Hurry, quick!"
"You have legs. You can go get it yourself!"
"You little twerp."
"That bossy devil is none other than..."
"my older sister."
"Looking after our brothers and sisters is all left up to me."
"Can you help me with the laundry?"
"If not, can you look after the youngest?"
"Shut it, birdbrain!"
"Want me to hit you?"
She swears very cutely.
"Shut it, birdbrain!"
"Is it like this for all the second born children out there?"
"It make me so sad."
"Can you fix my sister's personality for me?"
Do you have any siblings?
- I have an older sister... - A sister.
- and an older brother. - Brother.
- Then, it's me. - You have two siblings.
I think I can understand her situation.
- You can? - I used to wear a suit for my dance classes.
When I would go out in my suit, my sister would call me from the couch.
"Where are you going? Do the dishes before you go."
- In your suit? - Yes.
- Your suit? - Yes.
I would fight back, saying I had on a suit.
I would tell her to do it. She'd go, "Just do it." And I had to do it...
after lifting up the sleeves.
My older sisters would dress me up in girl clothes and lock me outside.
Even though...
you were a kid, that would have been unsightly.
- It would have been... - I'd cry like this.
(Shin Dong-yeob hates this.)
- Yes. - She sent in her issue because she was having a hard time with her sister.
Let's bring out our guest.
(Who's the guest suffering from her sister acting like she's king?)
(Park Ha-bin)
She looks like the second child.
Be careful.
Does your sister make you do a lot of things?
While we're eating, when she wants a drink,
she'd keep saying, "Drink, drink, drink" until I get it for her.
Until you get it for her?
You should just say, "No, no, no."
- Good idea. - Also, she wanted to eat some tteokbokki.
She told me to go buy some.
But she didn't give me any money.
- She wanted me to pay for it. - What?
That's mean.
What if you don't do it?
- She suddenly turns scary. - Turns scary?
- Yes. She starts cursing. - Cursing?
- You little... - What?
I know how scary that is.
Whenever they make that face and say do it, you end up doing it.
Have you ever resisted?
- No. She would start grabbing things. - Grabbing things?
- To throw at you? - Yes.
So you do what she says because you're scared of her?
Yes. Also when she does it, it's fine.
But she can't stand when someone else does it.
For example, once, she came to me singing and dancing.
- She started dancing randomly? - What?
- Yes, she just started dancing. - "Hey, come here!"
- I feel like this will be more scary. - It does.
- But when I'm humming to myself, - Yes?
she tell me my voice is disgusting and tells me to shut it.
She speaks like that?
- Why does she have to say it like that? - So what did you do?
- Did you fight back? - She goes, "Who do you think you are?"
Oh?
She taps me on the shoulder and kicks me in the butt.
- She kicks you? - In the butt?
- Like this? - Knee kick?
One, two, bam!
- Oh. - Like a combo.
That must feel horrible.
Let's meet her sister.
Hello.
She looks so innocent.
She doesn't look like she'd do that.
- Hello. - She's cute.
- She looks nice. - You sure she does that?
Is it true? Do you really boss her around?
Yes. Well, about that,
I say it's the right of being the eldest.
- What? - Because I'm the oldest,
I have every right to ask her for favors. Because she's younger,
she should listen to me.
But why'd you make her go buy tteokbokki with her money?
- Yes, why? - When I ask something from her,
I tend to reward her later.
As we're listening to this...
- When's that? - A reward?
Chi-yeul, why are you laughing so hard? Why?
- Did it shock you? - No, my sister said the same thing.
She told you she'll pay you back later?
"I'll pay you back when you're older."
On top of cursing at her, we heard you also acted violently towards her.
You tapped her and kicked her.
I admit I curse at her. It's because I tend to curse a lot.
- You curse a lot. - Yes, I do.
I feel bad about that but...
I wouldn’t say it's violence. It was more of a play fight.
But she said you kicked her.
Sometimes I can't control it.
(Sometimes, I can't control the power.)
If she's just playing around with you...
No, it really hurts.
She has a fourth-degree belt in Taekwondo.
- What? - What?
- Fourth-degree belt? - Then you have no choice but to listen to her.
You have to listen to her.
- Fourth-degree belt? - That's still violence.
She used to do Taekwondo since she was little?
We both learned it.
- What level are you? - I also have a fourth-degree belt.
- You should fight it out. - Let's see you two fight.
I can't believe you let her hit you.
But she's really strong.
- I can't fight back. - Even though you're on the same level?
- No. - Oh.
I can see your younger siblings next to her as we speak.
- Let's meet them. Hello. - Oh.
Denim jackets must be the family's uniform.
- They're all wearing it. - It must be their family uniform.
Who told you to wear matching denim jackets like this today?
- I don't know. - Mom.
- Your mom? - What grade are you in?
I'm a freshman in high school, I'm Park Se-rin.
- Oh. - Freshman?
Do you understand your sister's issue?
Yes, I do. Our oldest sister can be really sensitive sometimes.
Was it also tough for you too?
I think so.
- She can't say it when she's there. - Did she ever hit you?
Or do you think Ha-bin deserved to get hit?
- Please, be honest. - It's okay.
Does it bother you that your oldest sister's there?
I'm sure it does. She's right there.
(Se-rin, is there a problem?)
(I can't meet her eyes.)
Don't pat her. It'll make her more uncomfortable.
Just for today, let your sisters speak freely.
Tell them you'll forgive them for today.
- Tell them to speak comfortably. - Do it comfortably.
I'm always distracted by things...
so I don't always listen to what she says to me.
- That can happen. - But,
every time that happens, she scowls and lowers her voice and goes,
"Hey."
"Why aren't you listening?"
Like that.
Like Chi-yeul's sister?
I'm not sure.
I never met his sister.
She's the same.
I can tell you she's similar.
And whenever we go out together as a family,
I get so excited that I...
- end up running around. - That's fine.
But during those times, she...
goes and says, "Hey, stop running." Like that.
- Why doesn't she let you run around? - You're just excited.
- Why? - She always runs indoors.
- So? - You should be quiet when you're indoors.
- I tell her not to run. - Like in a restaurant?
Yes, I tell her to be quiet.
- Is it true that your sister told you not to run indoors? - Yes.
- You shouldn't do that. - Your sister was right.
- Okay. - We understand.
- Don't run indoors. - That's a nice way to educate her sisters.
What about the next sister? What grade are you in?
She looks very afraid.
- Hello. - Introduce yourself.
I'm in seventh grade.
That's it?
- They don't talk much. - Are you talking down to us?
- Are you going to the eight grade next year? - Yes.
This is a typical phase before you become an eighth grader.
You're at an awkward age right now.
Tell us everything comfortably.
When I sleep,
I toss and turn a lot.
She tells me to go out if I keep tossing and turning.
- In your room? - Yes.
I'm worried that she might hear me swallow my saliva.
Hear her swallowing?
That's too much.
- Swallowing saliva? - That's too sensitive.
I try to stay quiet.
- Oh my gosh. - If you can't swallow, do you have saliva in your mouth?
- Yes. - That sounds so desperate.
When you sleep?
- Sometimes I drool. - Really?
- You should prepare a paper cup. - That's unbelievable.
Were you kicked out of the room?
- Yes. - Yes, I was kicked out.
- So did you go to your other sister's room? - Yes.
Did the other three sisters...
ever think that she was too mean to you?
Didn't you ever think about expressing your feelings?
We never thought about that.
- Okay. - I see.
We understand.
- She answered so quickly. - Yes.
She sounded firm.
- Because you were scared of your oldest sister? - Yes.
- You thought about it, but couldn't say it out loud? - Yes.
- Because you were scared? - Yes.
Because they're so scared of their oldest sister,
my younger sisters ignore me.
The room gets messy after they use it.
I tell them to clean the room up.
They say okay and swear at the end.
They swear every time they reply to me.
- Do they talk back to you? What about the oldest sister? - Yes.
They can't talk back to their oldest sister.
- They ignore me. - Then you should also act like a scary sister.
I don't want to become a person like her.
- "I'm a different person from you." - I see.
- She could feel that way. - Did your sister ever...
ignore and scold you in front of your younger sisters?
- In front of them? - Yes. When I'm scolding them,
she tells me to be stop and be quiet.
That's why they ignore you.
- She loses her dignity. - She needs to leave me alone...
when I'm scolding my younger sisters.
- But she cuts me off in the middle. - She talks loudly by herself.
- Yes. - She scolds you instead.
She'll lose dignity as an older sister if you act like that.
- You should take her to another room. - You should talk to her privately.
Why do you interrupt her while she's scolding her sisters?
I didn't think of that.
- Okay. - I have a strange feeling that we're losing.
Did you ever tell this to your parents?
Didn't you ask your parents to take care of the situation?
My mom was always on my elder sister's side.
She told me not to behave like that to my sister.
- Your mom was on her side? - That's wrong.
When my mom felt that it was my elder sister's fault,
- she told me bear with it since I was nicer. - You must've been upset.
- "Your sister's just like that." - Your mom said that?
- She told me to understand. - That's wrong.
- We understand. - You must've been frustrated.
Are you their mother?
Let's meet their mother. You're raising four daughters...
- and 2 sons. - 2 sons.
The age difference between your youngest son and...
- your oldest daughter is 18 years. - Wow.
- Wow. - That's unbelievable.
- It must've been tough. - That's amazing.
- If it's a big family, there has to be certain rank. - Yes.
It becomes chaotic if there's no rank between family members.
- It's really hard. - Is that why you're always on your oldest daughter's side?
- You're always on her side. - No.
You tell your second daughter to understand.
My oldest daughter acts with responsibility,
but she kind of acts without responsibility.
- She feels differently. - She's just complaining.
So you don't think you're treating them unfairly?
- No, I don't treat them unfairly. - But...
Did you ever scold her?
- Who? - Your oldest daughter.
I have scolded my oldest daughter.
She loses her temper easily.
Although she does a good job, she sometimes loses her temper.
I always point it out and scold her.
- As the oldest sister, I shouldn't discourage her. - Right.
I scold her privately.
A basic rank within the family is necessary.
Your mother didn't want to discourage her oldest daughter,
and said that it was inevitable. What do you think?
- What do... - She doesn't act like the oldest sister.
- She is... - Why?
After school,
I have a brother named Do-hyun.
- I bring him home. - You pick him up?
I do housework like cleaning the dishes,
vacuuming, wiping,
- and doing the laundry. - That's almost everything.
I also change the diapers for the children.
- That's everything. - She does everything.
- I do everything right now. - What does your sister do?
- She says no and looks at her phone. - Does she swear?
She swears.
Doesn't your mother tell her to work?
No, she always calls me and makes me do all the work.
- Really? - Your mom also?
- It became your job. - She's used to it.
If you're good at something, people keep telling you to do it.
I think you are really treating them unfairly.
I had my second daughter 100 days after I had my first daughter.
She kept on raising younger sisters and brothers since then.
Since she was a baby, she had to act as an older sister with responsibility.
She always did the housework and helped me.
- She just said that she does all the housework. - Yes.
Just now.
Her sister used to do it before?
Yes, she did...
all the housework until she was a senior in high school.
- Has it been 1 year then? - About 1 to 2 years.
- Is that right? - I never saw my sister working...
and I always saw my mom working by herself.
- You never saw your sister doing housework? - No.
- She was always in her room. - Maybe she worked secretly.
I see what it is.
Normally, the second child always gets jealous of the first child.
- I'm also a younger brother, and I hate it. - What?
- Really? - Because you were born later?
When we received money,
my brother got 50 dollars while I got 30 dollars. It was unfair.
When I asked why I was treated unfairly,
they told me it was because I was younger. I hated it.
- I think you just appealed that your family was wealthy. - Yes.
- We used to receive 10 or 5 dollars. - Right.
- Who received 50 dollars and 30 dollars? - Yes.
- 50 dollars is a huge amount. - Yes.
Did your mom ever compliment you?
- I came in fifth in my class in my performance test. - Good job.
I told my mom that I came in fifth in my class.
- She said, "I'm busy, let's talk later." - That's upsetting.
- She could've complimented you. - She was too stern.
But when my sister came home,
she said that her friend's mom told her she was nice.
- Her friend's mom told her she was nice. - Told her she was nice?
- Something she heard? - From her friend's mom?
She heard it from her friend's mom.
- It wasn't about her grades? - It was something she heard.
My mom said, "That's my daughter Su-bin!"
- "That's my daughter?" - She treated us differently.
- She only complimented my sister. - Let's hear what she thinks.
Why did you act like that? She came in fifth in her class.
- You ignored her. - You treated them differently.
I was really busy at that moment.
I was preparing dinner and the baby was also crying.
I was kind of frustrated.
I was having a tough time, and she told me.
She could've told me later.
- I was just too busy. - What about her sister?
She comes home from the academy at around 10pm.
Most of the children are sleeping by then.
She came in when I was resting.
That's why I listened to her.
- That was bad timing. - Tell her after 9pm.
- Tell her after 9pm. - I can compliment her if I have time.
- What time did you tell her? - It was the same situation.
We both talked when she was preparing dinner.
She reacted the same and didn't listen to me.
- She has a lot of stress. - She's disappointed.
- She almost cried right now. - Yes.
- She had tears in her eyes. - Yes.
- Oh, no. - We understand.
We can't stand being treated unfairly.
How did you compliment your oldest daughter recently?
I don't need to compliment her. She just gets thing done.
- You keep complimenting her. - That's right.
- She might think differently. - That's not what I mean.
Then your second daughter doesn't do anything?
She doesn't get things done properly.
If I tell them to do the dishes, she does a good job.
But my second daughter does a sloppy job.
- Wait. - It's because she doesn't want to.
- Is this your real daughter? - She's trying her best.
Then I don't know why she keeps ordering me to do it.
You don't know why she keeps ordering you.
My sister isn't good at doing the dishes.
She didn't even do the dishes that much.
She keeps pointing her finger at her sister.
- She's really angry right now. - Yes, she is.
From our point of view,
she helps with the housework and changes the diapers.
- You should be proud. - Yes.
Did you compliment her?
I said, "Even if it's you, I'm satisfied."
- I was satisfied. - What do you mean by "even if it's you?"
- You should say, "thanks to you." - You should express it differently.
- What does that mean? - "I'm so glad you're here."
- "I'm so thankful that I had you." - I didn't mean it that way.
I was talking in a positive way.
- I was thankful that she was there instead. - You said it again.
- Tell her thank you. - You should say, "Thanks to you."
I understand. If you think about it carefully,
who are you more upset with? Your mom or your sister?
- I'm more upset with my sister. - Your sister?
Yes, I'm upset with my sister...
but when my mom takes her side, they're both annoying.
- She's like a mother-in-law. - And a sister-in-law.
- Sister-in-laws can be more annoying. - Right.
After hearing each other's feelings,
do you know why your sister is so upset with you?
Do you understand? Or do you still disagree?
- Honestly, - Yes.
I think she needs to suffer more to come to her senses.
She needs to suffer more?
Tell us why you think that way.
If she realizes what society is like,
she'll understand my feelings.
You're one year apart, and you know about society already?
No, that's not true.
I admit that swearing was wrong.
But I don't think I'm acting poorly as an elder sister.
- Really? - You tried your best as the oldest sister?
Yes, I try my best and my parents believe in me.
I believe I'm doing things right.
From your sister's point of view, it's so unfair.
It's unfair because when you order something,
you can tell her that you'll do it together with her.
But you just order her anytime.
My father always made me do errands at night.
He always made me buy things at night.
It made me grind my teeth in anger. Really.
Isn't that a knife?
- That's a knife. - Yes.
It's because we're on TV.
- What do you mean? - I was trying to make it sound appropriate.
I was grinding my teeth and moving my hands like this.
My mother also discriminated me.
She always favored my older brother.
- She always compared us. - Yes.
I don't think you notice that you're also like this.
They need to feel like they're being loved in their homes.
But if they're not loved at home, it affects their behavior outside.
- They lose self-esteem. - Yes.
- They lose self-esteem. - They overreact to small things.
Second Childs are mostly like that.
- They receive a lot of stress. - I agree.
I see a few families in the audience. When you mentioned this,
they were nodding in agreement. They're also sisters.
They're all like that.
Do you have any last words...
for your second daughter who built up the courage to share this issue?
Ha-bin, recently...
you come home early to help me.
You help me cook and clean the house.
I'm so grateful to you these days.
You are my lovely daughter.
From now on,
I'll listen carefully to anything you say.
I'll compliment you. I love you.
(I'll compliment you more, I love you.)
That was nice.
- This is what she wanted. - Yes.
- It wasn't much. - Right.
- This is what she wanted to hear. - Yes.
- She's satisfied now. - That's what she wanted to hear.
- You should give her the love she deserves. - Right.
- A simple thank you. - "Why did you give my love to her? My neck's love!"
The love she deserves.
I didn't know what she meant.
(Right on his neck!)
- My neck's love! - My neck's love.
My neck's love? That sounded scary.
Let's start voting. Chi-yeul, what do you think?
I think it's an issue. I think she should express her feeling fairly.
She should compliment both of her daughters.
"You're doing a good job."
You should say something warm like this.
- That's right. - I don't think it's an issue.
When I first heard it, I thought her sister was a psychopath.
I imagined a cruel looking person.
- But we were wrong. - She's very friendly.
She's cute, and I don't think she'll act like that again.
- Really? - I think the problem is already solved.
I don't think it's an issue.
Although Ha-bin can't understand her right now,
after 10 years, she'll realize how precious this was.
- I agree. - She'll realize then.
I think they'll take care of it.
When they see this show after 10 years,
they'll clap and remember this moment as a happy memory.
- Yes. - That's right.
If you agree with this issue,
press the button.
(What does the audience think?)
- In 5, 4, - In 5, 4,
- 3, 2, 1. - 3, 2, 1.
- Stop! - Let's close the votes.
Do you have anything to say to your sister?
I'll try not to swear from now on.
I'll try hard. When I order something,
I'll pay you back with a reward.
I'll say this for the first and last time.
Park Ha-bin, Park Se-rin, Park Ga-in,
Park Do-hyun, Park Do-jun, and my parents.
I love you all.
(I love our whole family.)
- She's really the oldest. - Yes.
- She's the oldest sister. - Yes.
- She's the first child. - I hope you can express your feelings more from now on.
Let's see how many votes this issue got.
Show us the result.
"The Devil In Our House"
Is it more than 100 votes?
- 86 votes. - 86 votes.
I'm sure that...
you'll become a happy family from now on.
"Unspeakable Issue" wins today.
We will give the winner a prize to root for their issues to be solved.
Congratulations.
Until the day we are all issue-free,
Hello will continue to counsel you.